Much continues as previously. This is worth a note though. Example of Guardian not reporting Corbyn or so slightly they could just as well not bother. I still think this is a large explanation of how Brexit came about. The voters Corbyn connects to are not represented in mainstream media.
The print version of Guardian as bought in Exeter has a John Crace sketch with no mention of corbyn motion as announced at end of debate. The web version just checked has got a mention right at the end with comment it is a bit pointless as no time available. Looks to be a late addition.
My take is that the Guardian has stayed mostly on an anti Corbyn position since he was elected. I won't post the evidence every time.
Tuesday 18 December 2018
Saturday 15 December 2018
Trump / Brexit ; BBC / CNN
Background to several tweets
Not sure really what is going on but there is clearly a gap how different things are reported.
CNN reports from USA on Trump and issues from election, fake social media, investigations, court cases.
In UK almost no reporting on similar, possibly linked, events around Brexit. By contrast some knocking copy on other reports such as by Carole Cadwalladr, both on air comments and tweets from @afneil.
Not sure when but this cannot continue. My guess is the USA story will get so loud the UK media cannot ignore the Brexit aspect. Not sure when. BBC and newspapers too involved in Brexit case to report the issues now. They did not question enough at the time.
So various quote tweets and comments will appear along these lines. @newswatchbbc possible , not sure when the deadline is so make this a very general comment.
Not sure really what is going on but there is clearly a gap how different things are reported.
CNN reports from USA on Trump and issues from election, fake social media, investigations, court cases.
In UK almost no reporting on similar, possibly linked, events around Brexit. By contrast some knocking copy on other reports such as by Carole Cadwalladr, both on air comments and tweets from @afneil.
Not sure when but this cannot continue. My guess is the USA story will get so loud the UK media cannot ignore the Brexit aspect. Not sure when. BBC and newspapers too involved in Brexit case to report the issues now. They did not question enough at the time.
So various quote tweets and comments will appear along these lines. @newswatchbbc possible , not sure when the deadline is so make this a very general comment.
Still not much reporting on Corbyn
Notes just a bit bigger than a tweet. Just played Nick Robinson podcast with Hilary Benn. On the week not much here about the debate Labour asked for on the pulling of the vote. I think Corbyn made some good points then but not much reported. Robinson seems to hope Benand other Labour MPs will switch support to May project. He has no time to explore what Corbyn says about EU policy, what the form of an actual discussion would be. So this time is a continuation of the referendum. see previous posts.
By the way, about 20 min in Benn asked about the newspaper reports around the time he resigned. Not based on info from him apparently but why is he never asked to guess where the report came from? Anyway, maybe this blog should move on. He is clear that Corbyn is now leader of Labour Party. Eventually reality of Commons will be reported or have some consequence.
Evidence of bias on Corbyn consistent throughout, the blog only needs so much.
But info on telly arrangements still interesting. Not much made public about BBC / ITV talks. Would still be interesting how Corbyn ended up on Sky / Last Leg ( both excellent of course) will have to wait for diaries.
By the way, about 20 min in Benn asked about the newspaper reports around the time he resigned. Not based on info from him apparently but why is he never asked to guess where the report came from? Anyway, maybe this blog should move on. He is clear that Corbyn is now leader of Labour Party. Eventually reality of Commons will be reported or have some consequence.
Evidence of bias on Corbyn consistent throughout, the blog only needs so much.
But info on telly arrangements still interesting. Not much made public about BBC / ITV talks. Would still be interesting how Corbyn ended up on Sky / Last Leg ( both excellent of course) will have to wait for diaries.
Saturday 1 December 2018
Update and fiction around May / Corbyn on TV re Brexit
This blog has not been updated for a while. I have done a lot of tweets - @will789gb - and also added to the playlist on YouTube. But often I have just repeated previous questions. Looking for info on how things came to happen.
I am still interested mostly in the newspapers at the time of the referendum. There is interest now in social media and links to Trump etc. but in 2016 the newspapers still had clout. Hard to tell how much, but a lot of influence on the debate.
So I am going to look at the background to the proposed May / Corbyn TV debate on current Commons vote. Follow on Twitter and look for clues on what is going on. Could be very similar to what happened during referendum.
Big difference is that Corbyn is more in control of Labour Party press and PR. In 2016 there were organisations set up by Mandelson and Alan Johnson. Speculation has it some opponents inside Labour wanted to oppose him following an election defeat. The shadow cabinet resignations came soon after the referendum result. One campaign had a press release including an attack on Corbyn as part of their conclusion at the referendum result.
Corbyn did not share a platform with Conservatives and did not follow the same arguments. He avoided "catastrophist" claims about the economy.Concentrated on employment and consumer rights, the environment, positive aspects of EU.
For ref, this from Sky
Unfortunately the clips from Last Led on Channel 4 now very limited. Edits claim to show 7/10 score for EU as not positive enough. The complete clip was uploaded to his own YouTube channel, then taken down at Channel 4 request. It would be interesting to know how these decisions happened. Possibly thought to be helping someone inside Labour? Hard to tell. When the polls were tricky and media space was cleared for Labour it was taken by Gordon Brown and Lord Darling, sharing a platform with Osborne and sticking to claims about crashing the economy and a difficult budget. Not much reporting on Corbyn.
So how will decisions in TV be made over the next week or so? According to Buzzfeed there may have been discussions between BBC and May about a format that assumed an audience 50:50 in support of May to start with, limited time for Corbyn and May. So the ITV option makes sense for Labour.
Between the referendum and the second Labour leadership election there were heckles on Corbyn reported on BBC. But on Twitter there are stories that one was associated with Portland and the other with Lib Dems. Again this might have been sen as helpful for some sort of Labour or central view. Hard to tell. But maybe someone can remember and info will turn up as part of the chat this week.
So far the BBC has not reported on a story that May blocked an inquiry into Banks when Home Secretary before the referendum. Reported by Daily Mail and Channel 4 and mentioned in Commons by Ben Bradshaw MP. This should be part of a Brexit discussion as connects to Trump investigations and Russian cyber actions. Carole Cadwalladr is often queried on Twitter, in ways supported by some comments on BBC such as paper reviews and guests such as Banks. Another reason to avoid BBC if they continue to block the story. If they know it is wrong they could say so.
I am sometimes uncertain what the priority is for people supporting a second referendum. Corbyn is clear enough that this is a possibility though he prefers a general election. Is the aim to persuade him or to show he is just wrong and should be replaced? Surely things have changed? He is the Leader and you might think he would get media support. But Observer newspaper for example seems to ignore this. Interesting to see comments around the TV options.
Probably continues as tweets - @will789gb - other topics also.
Not much fiction yet, maybe later.
I am still interested mostly in the newspapers at the time of the referendum. There is interest now in social media and links to Trump etc. but in 2016 the newspapers still had clout. Hard to tell how much, but a lot of influence on the debate.
So I am going to look at the background to the proposed May / Corbyn TV debate on current Commons vote. Follow on Twitter and look for clues on what is going on. Could be very similar to what happened during referendum.
Big difference is that Corbyn is more in control of Labour Party press and PR. In 2016 there were organisations set up by Mandelson and Alan Johnson. Speculation has it some opponents inside Labour wanted to oppose him following an election defeat. The shadow cabinet resignations came soon after the referendum result. One campaign had a press release including an attack on Corbyn as part of their conclusion at the referendum result.
Corbyn did not share a platform with Conservatives and did not follow the same arguments. He avoided "catastrophist" claims about the economy.Concentrated on employment and consumer rights, the environment, positive aspects of EU.
For ref, this from Sky
Unfortunately the clips from Last Led on Channel 4 now very limited. Edits claim to show 7/10 score for EU as not positive enough. The complete clip was uploaded to his own YouTube channel, then taken down at Channel 4 request. It would be interesting to know how these decisions happened. Possibly thought to be helping someone inside Labour? Hard to tell. When the polls were tricky and media space was cleared for Labour it was taken by Gordon Brown and Lord Darling, sharing a platform with Osborne and sticking to claims about crashing the economy and a difficult budget. Not much reporting on Corbyn.
So how will decisions in TV be made over the next week or so? According to Buzzfeed there may have been discussions between BBC and May about a format that assumed an audience 50:50 in support of May to start with, limited time for Corbyn and May. So the ITV option makes sense for Labour.
Between the referendum and the second Labour leadership election there were heckles on Corbyn reported on BBC. But on Twitter there are stories that one was associated with Portland and the other with Lib Dems. Again this might have been sen as helpful for some sort of Labour or central view. Hard to tell. But maybe someone can remember and info will turn up as part of the chat this week.
So far the BBC has not reported on a story that May blocked an inquiry into Banks when Home Secretary before the referendum. Reported by Daily Mail and Channel 4 and mentioned in Commons by Ben Bradshaw MP. This should be part of a Brexit discussion as connects to Trump investigations and Russian cyber actions. Carole Cadwalladr is often queried on Twitter, in ways supported by some comments on BBC such as paper reviews and guests such as Banks. Another reason to avoid BBC if they continue to block the story. If they know it is wrong they could say so.
I am sometimes uncertain what the priority is for people supporting a second referendum. Corbyn is clear enough that this is a possibility though he prefers a general election. Is the aim to persuade him or to show he is just wrong and should be replaced? Surely things have changed? He is the Leader and you might think he would get media support. But Observer newspaper for example seems to ignore this. Interesting to see comments around the TV options.
Probably continues as tweets - @will789gb - other topics also.
Not much fiction yet, maybe later.
Sunday 9 September 2018
BBC view seems much the same as newspapers, so critique unlikely
A few thoughts after watching Dateline London on BBC News.
Brexit has a few issues for the UK but the discussion made no mention of Jeremy Corbyn or opposition in parliament or anywhere. Apart from Conservatives in newspapers. So the scope for Steve Richards is the current government and the BoJo supporters. As far as I can tell there was almost no BBC reporting of PMQ this week, my take Corbyn was effective, all questions about Brexit. The official story is that Corbyn has failed to get message through, though BBC editorial may have more to do with it. My guess is that Corbyn at PMQ will matter eventually, even if not reported by BBC and newspapers. RT on YouTube continues, not sure how this can be blocked.
So the strange world of Brexit newspapers is actually shared by the BBC and presumably other broadcasters. Debate about Brexit is entirely inside the Conservative Party. there is no interest in what Corbyn says in the Commons. Labour supporters online are so rude best avoided. ( btw there are some very elegant insults coming from proper journalists so maybe versions of Twitter do appear eventually as part of the debate @steverichards14 will notice).
I used to think the BBC read out opinions from newspapers as something they just had to do. Still listen to Today sometimes and now think they look out for the ones that defend Brexit / attack Corbyn. seems to fit with their own point of view.
So however bad things get, BBC is not going to comment on the situation of Mail / Sun / Telegraph / Express . Circulation may decline. Research may show remaining readers are older even than BBC audience. There may be yet more outrage opinion as much cheaper than reporting. But BBC support could well continue. No analysis to be expected. ( The socalled paper reviews will increase the trend to ramble off into other opinions, not based on any substance in the actual papers, just my guess time will tell)
Actual news? Search on PMQ and Corbyn on a Wednesday.
Brexit has a few issues for the UK but the discussion made no mention of Jeremy Corbyn or opposition in parliament or anywhere. Apart from Conservatives in newspapers. So the scope for Steve Richards is the current government and the BoJo supporters. As far as I can tell there was almost no BBC reporting of PMQ this week, my take Corbyn was effective, all questions about Brexit. The official story is that Corbyn has failed to get message through, though BBC editorial may have more to do with it. My guess is that Corbyn at PMQ will matter eventually, even if not reported by BBC and newspapers. RT on YouTube continues, not sure how this can be blocked.
So the strange world of Brexit newspapers is actually shared by the BBC and presumably other broadcasters. Debate about Brexit is entirely inside the Conservative Party. there is no interest in what Corbyn says in the Commons. Labour supporters online are so rude best avoided. ( btw there are some very elegant insults coming from proper journalists so maybe versions of Twitter do appear eventually as part of the debate @steverichards14 will notice).
I used to think the BBC read out opinions from newspapers as something they just had to do. Still listen to Today sometimes and now think they look out for the ones that defend Brexit / attack Corbyn. seems to fit with their own point of view.
So however bad things get, BBC is not going to comment on the situation of Mail / Sun / Telegraph / Express . Circulation may decline. Research may show remaining readers are older even than BBC audience. There may be yet more outrage opinion as much cheaper than reporting. But BBC support could well continue. No analysis to be expected. ( The socalled paper reviews will increase the trend to ramble off into other opinions, not based on any substance in the actual papers, just my guess time will tell)
Actual news? Search on PMQ and Corbyn on a Wednesday.
Monday 20 August 2018
Link to blog about Guardian
Just done a post in blog about Reading the Guradian.
Responds to Open Door today looking for reasons why readers complain about G take on Corbyn.
Mostly, I mention the way they use opposition to Brexit as a way to knock Corbyn, not covering what he has actually said. So I would like to go back to what happened during the referendum, how that was reported, the "soft coup" whatever you want to call it, how the G opinion supported this.
there is going to be news over the next few months but how did Brexit happen? Quite possibly the pressures and situations around now are similar to then. Many of the same people.
Today news Guardian mentions Labour strategic concern with working class voters who supported Leave. From the space given to Lord Adonis this is not a concern they consider news for the people they think are readers. Was it much the same during referendum? Corbyn arguments aimed at Labour voters or lost Labour voters. Alan Johnson, Lord Mandelson and others supporting lines from Cameron. Newspapers ignoring Corbyn or getting briefed for a blame game. Speculation obviously but there may be info somewhere.
Just that the Brexit decision seems so strange there must be an explanation as to why the media did such a bad job at explaining the downside. Failure to report what Corbyn was saying is part of this, so need to explore why knocking Corbyn is such a priority.
Responds to Open Door today looking for reasons why readers complain about G take on Corbyn.
Mostly, I mention the way they use opposition to Brexit as a way to knock Corbyn, not covering what he has actually said. So I would like to go back to what happened during the referendum, how that was reported, the "soft coup" whatever you want to call it, how the G opinion supported this.
there is going to be news over the next few months but how did Brexit happen? Quite possibly the pressures and situations around now are similar to then. Many of the same people.
Today news Guardian mentions Labour strategic concern with working class voters who supported Leave. From the space given to Lord Adonis this is not a concern they consider news for the people they think are readers. Was it much the same during referendum? Corbyn arguments aimed at Labour voters or lost Labour voters. Alan Johnson, Lord Mandelson and others supporting lines from Cameron. Newspapers ignoring Corbyn or getting briefed for a blame game. Speculation obviously but there may be info somewhere.
Just that the Brexit decision seems so strange there must be an explanation as to why the media did such a bad job at explaining the downside. Failure to report what Corbyn was saying is part of this, so need to explore why knocking Corbyn is such a priority.
Monday 13 August 2018
Links on Boris , Sky , and Tweet pressure
Trying to track what turns up on Twitter.
Starts with comment on Sky blog by Lewis Goodall about class in Britain, how it allows views such as from Boris to go unchallenged.
But the episode adverts to something else, something which though not shifting in the mantle of our politics, has long been an irreducible, solid part of its core: all that is important in these matters in Britain, is that you are powerful - that you can say what you like, as long as you're posh.
Evidence then from a wide range of media support.
Then you get @mediaGuido objecting and then @montie who remarks "Big Questions here for @SkyNewsHead"
So by the way, there have been recent statements by Rowan Atkinson and others about the value of free speech. So how often should line management get involved with opinion for journalists?
Anyway, my main question is still on looking back to the referendum and what happened. What was Boris allowed to get away with? Was there any journalism as in questions or review as to what he was saying and did it make sense? My memory suggests probably not.
Boris situation continues, maybe further clues as to who might have done better reporting and what actually happened.
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Meanwhile I think Sky is able to resist this kind of pressure. BBC seems to think they have a duty to support HMG so EU is something of an enemy. Sky more likley to report facts such as lorries near Dover.
Starts with comment on Sky blog by Lewis Goodall about class in Britain, how it allows views such as from Boris to go unchallenged.
But the episode adverts to something else, something which though not shifting in the mantle of our politics, has long been an irreducible, solid part of its core: all that is important in these matters in Britain, is that you are powerful - that you can say what you like, as long as you're posh.
Evidence then from a wide range of media support.
Then you get @mediaGuido objecting and then @montie who remarks "Big Questions here for @SkyNewsHead"
So by the way, there have been recent statements by Rowan Atkinson and others about the value of free speech. So how often should line management get involved with opinion for journalists?
Anyway, my main question is still on looking back to the referendum and what happened. What was Boris allowed to get away with? Was there any journalism as in questions or review as to what he was saying and did it make sense? My memory suggests probably not.
Boris situation continues, maybe further clues as to who might have done better reporting and what actually happened.
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Meanwhile I think Sky is able to resist this kind of pressure. BBC seems to think they have a duty to support HMG so EU is something of an enemy. Sky more likley to report facts such as lorries near Dover.
Tim, I think @ofcom need to investigate Sky News bias. When was the last time you saw Faisal Islam cover a positive Brexit story? How about Conway? Boulton? Allegretti?
This might work on the BBC. Something Brexit positive turns up so they have to find some balance?
Sunday 12 August 2018
Draft for current Futurelearn course on British Empire
I am well into the time this course but dipping in and out. I did it previously in 2017. ( The stats on dropouts for a MOOC often ignore how people can dip back in again later or find something similar)
I think this is needed towards the end of August. Comments and suggestions welcome. Should be 300 words, getting too long already.
Blog is the first draft of journalism, history some weeks later. (Continental Drift book found in Blackwell's bookshop under Politics, not History)
I think this is needed towards the end of August. Comments and suggestions welcome. Should be 300 words, getting too long already.
Blog is the first draft of journalism, history some weeks later. (Continental Drift book found in Blackwell's bookshop under Politics, not History)
Legacy of British Empire
( draft for current course , updated from previous course Feb 2017 )
The present situation is part of European history and empires, the Dutch and Portuguese included. The financial aspect of the British Empire is now part of the USA dollar situation. So there is a wider context than first appears.
Public opinion is influenced by empire, notions of jingoism (UK) and exceptionalism (USA) for example. These seem to be less rational than could be shown as related to anything specific. Hitchcock remade the 39 Steps as North by North West , there was not much need to describe the external threat.
History as a subject can cross over with journalism or just speculation. The book Continental Drift by Benjamin Grob-Fitzgibbon describes UK policy on Europe up to the time of John Major. It shows how attitudes to Empire led to expectations of a role in Europe that turned out to be quite different to reality. The move towards leaving Europe has been based on an idea of “post-Geography” . Brexiteers such as Liam Fox see buccaneers as a role model. In the last year as the arrangements with the EU seem to be more complex than first claimed there has been a switch to more emphasis on issues around race and identity. Boris Johnson is now working with Steve Bannon on concerns around Islam.
How much sense the claims about the economy will make remains to be seen. It is possible that the British government is deluded, as are most of the newspapers and the public. Will a global market be less of a threat for the “just about managing”? It is not yet possible to discuss this as history but whatever happens will be explained as part of a longer story. Possibly the post imperial idea of a Global Britain will fail but the blame will be sorted out by a retreat to a culture that could still be explained through imperial history.
Some links to clarify what was in my original text, based on comments
"post-Geography" is a term used by Liam Fox. It might be futurist but I think it looks back to a previous time for UK options.
https://www.ft.com/content/e456c008-8642-11e6-8897-2359a58ac7a5
Hitchcock continued Buchan themes in film from novels. The course included the adventure stories in print. Hitchcock developed repeated ideas in USA from UK and they fit with Empire and Cold War.
More about Continental Drift
Intro as free PDF
Full info
You have to fill in the gaps towards the end. But it is clear enough about the Empire expectations post WW2 and the early approach to Europe from Heath and Wilson.
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Back to Corbyn and Referendum - What Happened?
Current phase of tweets etc around Corbyn and racism is taking up too much time to check out facts. Still important but I think I will go back to the referendum time and try to work out more about what happened. It may turn out to be one continuing story.
Stephen Bush in the Sunday Times speculates that some centrist Labour MPs have changed their point of view. Just after Corbyn was elected leader they thought there was enough time to wait for him to fail. But recently there are more Corbyn supporters joining as members. So some sort of new party is possible.
I am trying to find out more about "United For Change" . I am following them on Twitter. No clues yet on who is connected.
But what about "Saving Labour" ? This was a massive social media presence during the second leadership election. Still not much info on who was organising it. The main decisions about how Labour was organised for the referendum were taken before Corbyn became leader. It appears he did not have complete influence on the statements being made. the "blame Corbyn" trope came in a press release very rapidly after the result. Mandelson was quite keen to follow the Cameron lead even though upset by a lack of defence against misinformation. When the latter polls looked dodgy Cameron made space for Labour which turned out to include Lord Darling sharing a platform with Osborne. My guess is this was less convincing than had Corbyn been better reported for arguments based on worker rights and environment.
So I hope to go back to some of this. There may be clues on which MPs and journalists were concerned with different outcomes.
Continuing queries
Channel 4 blocked Corbyn from using complete clips from Last Resort. why? Anyone got a copy?
Thing is, for those worried about Brexit, and Corbyn "Fudge" as claimed by @BBCnews paper review yesterday evening, what he said in referendum is worth quoting. He did campaign for Remain, whatever version of history suits the people who need an issue to contest around him.
Two heckles reported by BBC seem to be not from upset Labour supporters but from Lib Dems and Portland. Has this been checked out? Where is Newsnight getting info or leads?
The Shadow Cabinet resignations started with reports in Observer and Sunday Times that Hilary Benn had no confidence in Corbyn. No way he could continue though this was later reported as "sacked in the middle of the night". What was the source of the story?
new one
Gavin Esler recently writing about the poor reporting on Brexit so far. He probably cannot go into detail about the BBC but maybe info will emerge around how things worked out. I got the impression that there was pressure from both sides in government. So reports tended to be a collection of conflicting statements with no way to judge any assessment. Left little space for Corbyn or other views.
Seems much the same at the moment. Reading the Observer today you would think that this week Corbyn has no way to exist. But probably something continues.
Stephen Bush in the Sunday Times speculates that some centrist Labour MPs have changed their point of view. Just after Corbyn was elected leader they thought there was enough time to wait for him to fail. But recently there are more Corbyn supporters joining as members. So some sort of new party is possible.
I am trying to find out more about "United For Change" . I am following them on Twitter. No clues yet on who is connected.
But what about "Saving Labour" ? This was a massive social media presence during the second leadership election. Still not much info on who was organising it. The main decisions about how Labour was organised for the referendum were taken before Corbyn became leader. It appears he did not have complete influence on the statements being made. the "blame Corbyn" trope came in a press release very rapidly after the result. Mandelson was quite keen to follow the Cameron lead even though upset by a lack of defence against misinformation. When the latter polls looked dodgy Cameron made space for Labour which turned out to include Lord Darling sharing a platform with Osborne. My guess is this was less convincing than had Corbyn been better reported for arguments based on worker rights and environment.
So I hope to go back to some of this. There may be clues on which MPs and journalists were concerned with different outcomes.
Continuing queries
Channel 4 blocked Corbyn from using complete clips from Last Resort. why? Anyone got a copy?
Thing is, for those worried about Brexit, and Corbyn "Fudge" as claimed by @BBCnews paper review yesterday evening, what he said in referendum is worth quoting. He did campaign for Remain, whatever version of history suits the people who need an issue to contest around him.
Two heckles reported by BBC seem to be not from upset Labour supporters but from Lib Dems and Portland. Has this been checked out? Where is Newsnight getting info or leads?
The Shadow Cabinet resignations started with reports in Observer and Sunday Times that Hilary Benn had no confidence in Corbyn. No way he could continue though this was later reported as "sacked in the middle of the night". What was the source of the story?
new one
Gavin Esler recently writing about the poor reporting on Brexit so far. He probably cannot go into detail about the BBC but maybe info will emerge around how things worked out. I got the impression that there was pressure from both sides in government. So reports tended to be a collection of conflicting statements with no way to judge any assessment. Left little space for Corbyn or other views.
Seems much the same at the moment. Reading the Observer today you would think that this week Corbyn has no way to exist. But probably something continues.
Sunday 29 July 2018
Canary Story basis for long format next May
The Trump and Brexit story has been coming together. Still some missing bits on possible Russia connection but a lot on social media advertising. I still think the newspapers had more influence in the UK than is being mentioned at the moment. But some comparison stats my yet turn up.
The Canary reports on UK response to a Reuters report that Steve Bannon intends to be active in EU elections next year. and that he is in contact with Boris, Gove and Farage. Canary notes that Dan Hodges has reservations about the links. He tweets " What the hell are Johnson, Mogg and Gove doing palling around with this guy. Johnson and Mogg I can sort of understand, they're just opportunists. But Gove? ".
This blog can look back on what different people have said since Brexit started. The gap between official and unofficial Leave campaigns was not that great as reported. Gove has worked as a Times journalist, including a Trump interview.
Probably UK will be out of EU in time for the elections. But still plenty of media comment, one would imagine. Possible news angles to rework previous posts as background.
The Canary reports on UK response to a Reuters report that Steve Bannon intends to be active in EU elections next year. and that he is in contact with Boris, Gove and Farage. Canary notes that Dan Hodges has reservations about the links. He tweets " What the hell are Johnson, Mogg and Gove doing palling around with this guy. Johnson and Mogg I can sort of understand, they're just opportunists. But Gove? ".
This blog can look back on what different people have said since Brexit started. The gap between official and unofficial Leave campaigns was not that great as reported. Gove has worked as a Times journalist, including a Trump interview.
Probably UK will be out of EU in time for the elections. But still plenty of media comment, one would imagine. Possible news angles to rework previous posts as background.
Wednesday 18 July 2018
BBC R4 Today and National Government
Need more space than a tweet. Just to check what I think I heard was right. Was half asleep for most of it but I think today the Today prog included both sides of the Brexit argument, that is Remain and Cabinet inside the Conservative Party. Closes with discussion of National Government as suggested by Remain. But nothing from the Labour Party, either front bench or supposed to be closer to Anna Soubry.
Unless I fell asleep and missed it this seems to me to confirm an impression of how the BBC covers Brexit. They were under two lots of pressure during referendum, both Conservative. Partly because of the views of most of the PLP at the time there was very little reporting of what Jeremy Corbyn actually said. Mandelson then as now sticks to trade and economy. He is right about the disaster but my point is that just backing up Cameron did not persuade anyone.
Dutch MP seems about right on high chance of a "chaos Brexit" , not as a choice from anyone but because Rees-Mogg and others can disrupt any sort of process. Many see some cross party opposition to this. But the danger meanwhile is that most of the country, the left behind, the just about managing, the north and midlands are left out of the picture. Persuading them requires attention to the issues Corbyn raised in the referendum. On Sunday Politics a Labour MP started to talk about worker rights and environment protection and was very quickly wound up."Please don't go through the six tests again" , sorry can't remember the name, will check later.
So BBC seems to follow the newspapers, mostly a debate between Conservatives, maybe the Guardian with a guest Anna Soubry fan from various sources. Am I being unfair? time will tell.
"chaos Brexit" may well happen before an election. At some point in time the wider electorate opinion will matter. Corbyn is part of a discussion. Suggest he be allowed space, not bashed about by Remain fans. If he is on the Today prog he may be allowed time to explain something before an editor arrives to tell us that actually the Labour Party is confused.
Unless I fell asleep and missed it this seems to me to confirm an impression of how the BBC covers Brexit. They were under two lots of pressure during referendum, both Conservative. Partly because of the views of most of the PLP at the time there was very little reporting of what Jeremy Corbyn actually said. Mandelson then as now sticks to trade and economy. He is right about the disaster but my point is that just backing up Cameron did not persuade anyone.
Dutch MP seems about right on high chance of a "chaos Brexit" , not as a choice from anyone but because Rees-Mogg and others can disrupt any sort of process. Many see some cross party opposition to this. But the danger meanwhile is that most of the country, the left behind, the just about managing, the north and midlands are left out of the picture. Persuading them requires attention to the issues Corbyn raised in the referendum. On Sunday Politics a Labour MP started to talk about worker rights and environment protection and was very quickly wound up."Please don't go through the six tests again" , sorry can't remember the name, will check later.
So BBC seems to follow the newspapers, mostly a debate between Conservatives, maybe the Guardian with a guest Anna Soubry fan from various sources. Am I being unfair? time will tell.
"chaos Brexit" may well happen before an election. At some point in time the wider electorate opinion will matter. Corbyn is part of a discussion. Suggest he be allowed space, not bashed about by Remain fans. If he is on the Today prog he may be allowed time to explain something before an editor arrives to tell us that actually the Labour Party is confused.
Monday 16 July 2018
Guardian on UK newspapers and Trump
I have done a post in the readG blog as it started with Guardian today, comments by Roy Greenslade and Matthew d'Ancona.
With this blog I will be going back to what happened in the referendum and the issues that were raised. I do not think the Brexit / Trump links just started a few weeks ago.
Many things are impossible to measure. My guess is that UK newspapers have an older readership but not much info available. Circulation declines quite large for Mirror group but have the readers moved online? where?
The newspapers were still strong in 2016, social media had more influence in the 2017 election. But now the newspapers and social media will work together. Leav.EU , Breitbart London, Westmonster, for example. So far I have done some retweets with comments. In future I will just put screenshots in this blog.
Slightly off topic, Guardian could report Corbyn differently if they really wanted to shake up the UK news scene. Just my opinion. More or less on topic as the limited reporting of Corbyn during the referendum could be a large part of the explanation of how other ideas gained strength.
With this blog I will be going back to what happened in the referendum and the issues that were raised. I do not think the Brexit / Trump links just started a few weeks ago.
Many things are impossible to measure. My guess is that UK newspapers have an older readership but not much info available. Circulation declines quite large for Mirror group but have the readers moved online? where?
The newspapers were still strong in 2016, social media had more influence in the 2017 election. But now the newspapers and social media will work together. Leav.EU , Breitbart London, Westmonster, for example. So far I have done some retweets with comments. In future I will just put screenshots in this blog.
Slightly off topic, Guardian could report Corbyn differently if they really wanted to shake up the UK news scene. Just my opinion. More or less on topic as the limited reporting of Corbyn during the referendum could be a large part of the explanation of how other ideas gained strength.
Wednesday 11 July 2018
Telegraph links Trump and Brexit
Today the Telegraph links Brexit with Trump visit by a front page story on remarks by trump that he would like to meet Boris Johnson when in the UK. Gordon Rayner reports that this is a blow to Mrs May's authority and will bolster Mr Johnson's support amongst Brexiteers.
Previously there has been speculation that Nigel Farage could meet with Trump. He suggested a role for himself soon after Trump was elected. Later Gove met with Trump for an interview when working as a journalist. Tweets will be interesting this week to see where the links are now and which tags crop up.
Cannot find photo of Trump and Boris but maybe later. Also in first photo, Arron Banks
Previously there has been speculation that Nigel Farage could meet with Trump. He suggested a role for himself soon after Trump was elected. Later Gove met with Trump for an interview when working as a journalist. Tweets will be interesting this week to see where the links are now and which tags crop up.
Cannot find photo of Trump and Boris but maybe later. Also in first photo, Arron Banks
Tuesday 10 July 2018
Back to Corbyn pro Remain in referendum
This blog is going round in circles, maybe because the story will turn out to be the same one over several years. I have stopped posting so much as things just repeat but maybe there is a claity phase soon?
Papers review last night seemed to me to include a statement that is just not so. Shaun Ley suggested Corbyn is critical of EU policy on worker rights and environment. Maybe he could suggest changes but the main thing is that Corbyn spoke during the referendum pro Remain based on these concerns. So I recorded this bit for review and comment.
Compare recent statement in Commons, Daily Mail version.
Four minutes in defends EU position on worker rights. This bit has not been widely reported, not at all in print Guardian that I can find.
See previous posts in this blog for what Corbyn said and how reported. the "blame Corbyn" phase was so strong that the actual referendum was forgotten. Not airbrushed out, I have to conclude most BBC reporters have genuinely forgotten.
Comment welcome. Other links? bloggers cannot expect interviews but some sort of retrospective may turn up.
My guess is that most of Westminster / print and TV are in one world , with another outside it until / unless there is an election or something. These gaps in memory are part of it.
Papers review last night seemed to me to include a statement that is just not so. Shaun Ley suggested Corbyn is critical of EU policy on worker rights and environment. Maybe he could suggest changes but the main thing is that Corbyn spoke during the referendum pro Remain based on these concerns. So I recorded this bit for review and comment.
Compare recent statement in Commons, Daily Mail version.
Four minutes in defends EU position on worker rights. This bit has not been widely reported, not at all in print Guardian that I can find.
See previous posts in this blog for what Corbyn said and how reported. the "blame Corbyn" phase was so strong that the actual referendum was forgotten. Not airbrushed out, I have to conclude most BBC reporters have genuinely forgotten.
Comment welcome. Other links? bloggers cannot expect interviews but some sort of retrospective may turn up.
My guess is that most of Westminster / print and TV are in one world , with another outside it until / unless there is an election or something. These gaps in memory are part of it.
Wednesday 4 July 2018
Brexit Endgame and UK newspapers
Found this blog through Chris Grey - mainly macro by Simon Wren-Lewis.
Brexit Endgame has a reasonable take on what may happen towards the end of this week.
Note the bit at the end suggesting newspapers have been a crucial influence. There may be more on this, even questions about broadcast media and how far they have questioned the news agenda. Maybe this will be mostly online.
Brexit Endgame has a reasonable take on what may happen towards the end of this week.
Note the bit at the end suggesting newspapers have been a crucial influence. There may be more on this, even questions about broadcast media and how far they have questioned the news agenda. Maybe this will be mostly online.
Friday 29 June 2018
Express take on May and EU, #Reach seems to be curating legacy ok
Recently there was an OFCOM check on how the Reach ( previously Trinity Mirror ) approach to the Express would diminish a plurality of views in UK newspapers. OK so far seems to be the result. More on another blog probably but not sure which one. Come back later..
Today print version of Express leads with "tough-talking" May on EU "risking lives" by not agreeing to her ideas on security.
Page five, third to last para, May added " we will be bringing the Cabinet together within the next week". Other reports have suggested this is quite important as news because the EU cannot work out what the UK priority is until there is more clarity. Readers may miss this bit as there is a headline for Brexiteers who urge "talk trade or quit negotiations" with a photo of Rees-Mogg. They expect a trade deal to be sorted soon as if the £40 billion is not linked to the transition phase.
Reach doing a solid job. No grounds for complaint.
Today print version of Express leads with "tough-talking" May on EU "risking lives" by not agreeing to her ideas on security.
Page five, third to last para, May added " we will be bringing the Cabinet together within the next week". Other reports have suggested this is quite important as news because the EU cannot work out what the UK priority is until there is more clarity. Readers may miss this bit as there is a headline for Brexiteers who urge "talk trade or quit negotiations" with a photo of Rees-Mogg. They expect a trade deal to be sorted soon as if the £40 billion is not linked to the transition phase.
Reach doing a solid job. No grounds for complaint.
Corbyn on ITV, fact check yourself on YouTube
Nothing posted for a while as things seem to be fixed or going round in circles. But maybe there is something happening fairly clearcut.
Last night in an unusual chat show following the football there was comment about David Cameron , his role in calling the referendum, and a statement by Jeremy Corbyn.
Seems reasonable to ask Jeremy Corbyn how he voted in the referendum because the reporting since has been so misleading. "Blame Jeremy Corbyn" was so well prepared it was in the press release for the official Labour campaign. See earlier posts in this blog for my take at the time on what Jeremy Corbyn actually said. As in this clip not a "catastrophist" backer of extreme views as in what has been described as "project fear". He has a balanced view but it can be persuasive. Unfortunately for the Remain case he was not much reported and Labour supporters in media circles , influenced perhaps by Lord Mandelson and others, decided to follow the Cameron approach. Lord Darling shared a platform with Osborne to repeat the concerns for UK economy and the City.
So good to see some update on Corbyn. Please view the whole clip.
Meanwhile I look at the websites for Independent and Guardian. Independent at least mentions that Corbyn "insisted he voted to remain in the EU" but the Guardian has nothing on Corbyn at all. Somehow the UK media has managed to obscure what Corbyn said in the referendum to the point where his support for Remain appears unknown or open to question.
Cameron could be asked a question about how the internal problems for the Conservatives caused some risk for the UK.
UK media could be asked some questions about how their opposition to Corbyn has blocked reporting on Brexit.
By the way, all the alarm about the UK economy and the City could turn out to be right. But those worried about this could consider working with Corbyn views if they want political support. Accurate reporting would be a start.
Last night in an unusual chat show following the football there was comment about David Cameron , his role in calling the referendum, and a statement by Jeremy Corbyn.
Seems reasonable to ask Jeremy Corbyn how he voted in the referendum because the reporting since has been so misleading. "Blame Jeremy Corbyn" was so well prepared it was in the press release for the official Labour campaign. See earlier posts in this blog for my take at the time on what Jeremy Corbyn actually said. As in this clip not a "catastrophist" backer of extreme views as in what has been described as "project fear". He has a balanced view but it can be persuasive. Unfortunately for the Remain case he was not much reported and Labour supporters in media circles , influenced perhaps by Lord Mandelson and others, decided to follow the Cameron approach. Lord Darling shared a platform with Osborne to repeat the concerns for UK economy and the City.
So good to see some update on Corbyn. Please view the whole clip.
Meanwhile I look at the websites for Independent and Guardian. Independent at least mentions that Corbyn "insisted he voted to remain in the EU" but the Guardian has nothing on Corbyn at all. Somehow the UK media has managed to obscure what Corbyn said in the referendum to the point where his support for Remain appears unknown or open to question.
Cameron could be asked a question about how the internal problems for the Conservatives caused some risk for the UK.
UK media could be asked some questions about how their opposition to Corbyn has blocked reporting on Brexit.
By the way, all the alarm about the UK economy and the City could turn out to be right. But those worried about this could consider working with Corbyn views if they want political support. Accurate reporting would be a start.
Sunday 22 April 2018
Update on single market and Corbyn
Still looking at newspapers but not much to blog about. also lots of repeats when I do. But there may be news next week re Single Market and votes in Commons.
Quite obscure though, newspapers not leading on this, maybe Brexit is boring or maybe the case for a rethink is going over better than widely supposed.
Sunday Times has a small piece on front page continued page 2 , policy on Customs Union may change. Mail on Sunday an inside report, there will be trouble if this happens. Notice there is not the welcome you might expect from previously, seems the Mail is as one every day of the week. Not sure about this, not buying papers so often.
Watching Sunday morning telly there was an interview with Nicky Morgan but not much about Labour on this policy. Just my impression but it still seems that knocking Corbyn is the priority for much of the "centrist" reporting. We seem to be heading back to when his leadership started. Maybe I am imagining this but I guess people like Lord Adonis could choose to draw attention to official Labouyr policy on Single Market and make that an issue. I can see why LibDems want to suggest Remainers should vote other than Labour. But if Brexit will be opposed by persuading the people who have supported it so far then maybe Labour is well placed to do so.
I still think Corbyn was effective during referendum, talking about EU as support for environment, worker rights and also discussing policy to support areas with problems around immigration. It may turn out the blog will continue around the same set of topics.
But not looking hopeful from a Remainer point of view, much too metro globalist. Even for a BBC studio.
Quite obscure though, newspapers not leading on this, maybe Brexit is boring or maybe the case for a rethink is going over better than widely supposed.
Sunday Times has a small piece on front page continued page 2 , policy on Customs Union may change. Mail on Sunday an inside report, there will be trouble if this happens. Notice there is not the welcome you might expect from previously, seems the Mail is as one every day of the week. Not sure about this, not buying papers so often.
Watching Sunday morning telly there was an interview with Nicky Morgan but not much about Labour on this policy. Just my impression but it still seems that knocking Corbyn is the priority for much of the "centrist" reporting. We seem to be heading back to when his leadership started. Maybe I am imagining this but I guess people like Lord Adonis could choose to draw attention to official Labouyr policy on Single Market and make that an issue. I can see why LibDems want to suggest Remainers should vote other than Labour. But if Brexit will be opposed by persuading the people who have supported it so far then maybe Labour is well placed to do so.
I still think Corbyn was effective during referendum, talking about EU as support for environment, worker rights and also discussing policy to support areas with problems around immigration. It may turn out the blog will continue around the same set of topics.
But not looking hopeful from a Remainer point of view, much too metro globalist. Even for a BBC studio.
Monday 12 March 2018
Has Vince Cable got a point on Empire ?
The Sun attack on Vince Cable suggests he may have a point, not just about racism but an idea of Empire as memory for older voters. Here is a clip of the full remarks.
Wednesday 28 February 2018
During EU referendum, what actually happened? #2 Daily Mail
It may be just me but I think the Daily Mail has gone a bit ott. Maybe I do not read it much so it could be like this all the time. But my guess is they are on some sort of energy buzz. Could be the EU situation or maybe press regulation. Tom Watson is in the spotlight.
Saw Channel 4 News last night with interview Max Mosley. "Treachery" headline on editorial page is opinion from Stephen Glover after recent Corbyn speech. Blames CBI, BBC, Japanese owned FT. Some memebers of the ruling class...."pretty treacherous". So the recent spy claims might just involve a missing fact around a sound opinion.
Anyway, main thing that strikes me is the claimed link on page 12, National Action and Thomas Mair, killer of Jo Cox MP through the slogan " death to traitors, freedom for Britain". At the time as memory serves it was mostly online that such connections were made. The newspapers did not much look at right wing politics as background. Some related issues were given much publicity.
Could Channel 4 investigate the content of newspapers during the referendum? Not just the Daily Mail of course, but given the approach in these reports on Max Mosley there are some reasonable questions to ask.
Page 13 explains that the Daily Mail did end support for the Blackshirts and also mentions comparison with the Express, Evening Standard and the Times.
Saw Channel 4 News last night with interview Max Mosley. "Treachery" headline on editorial page is opinion from Stephen Glover after recent Corbyn speech. Blames CBI, BBC, Japanese owned FT. Some memebers of the ruling class...."pretty treacherous". So the recent spy claims might just involve a missing fact around a sound opinion.
Anyway, main thing that strikes me is the claimed link on page 12, National Action and Thomas Mair, killer of Jo Cox MP through the slogan " death to traitors, freedom for Britain". At the time as memory serves it was mostly online that such connections were made. The newspapers did not much look at right wing politics as background. Some related issues were given much publicity.
Could Channel 4 investigate the content of newspapers during the referendum? Not just the Daily Mail of course, but given the approach in these reports on Max Mosley there are some reasonable questions to ask.
Page 13 explains that the Daily Mail did end support for the Blackshirts and also mentions comparison with the Express, Evening Standard and the Times.
During EU referendum, what actually happened? #1 Corbyn
Going back in time, follows Today prog on rhetoric and back story.
If the Remain lobby wants Corbyn to front anything, could be time to look at hat he actually said during referendum.
This morning BBC TV Breakfast mentions Corbyn "U Turn" so his support for Remain during referendum may have been forgotten,
Canary has a solid story on main events and a link to a longer one. See the first posts in this blog for more.
What happened with TV ? repeating recent post but seems a bit crucial. Channel 4 News now very keen on open access to original documents. See next post on Daily Mail. Corbyn appears on Last Leg. Uploaded full clip to YouTube. Blocked by Channel 4. I have a screen shot on previous post.
In the future some memoir ot other will reveal what control Corbyn has as leader of the Labour Party at that time. How was it decided for Lord Darling to share a platform with Osborne to announce a threat budget? Was that the style Corbyn would have chosen? anyway rambling on see previous posts.
If by chance anyone has a VHS tape now would be a good time to test another upload. Maybe Channel 4 have a revised policy on social media presence. Or else send it to FT or Bloomberg. Change is coming.
If the Remain lobby wants Corbyn to front anything, could be time to look at hat he actually said during referendum.
This morning BBC TV Breakfast mentions Corbyn "U Turn" so his support for Remain during referendum may have been forgotten,
Canary has a solid story on main events and a link to a longer one. See the first posts in this blog for more.
What happened with TV ? repeating recent post but seems a bit crucial. Channel 4 News now very keen on open access to original documents. See next post on Daily Mail. Corbyn appears on Last Leg. Uploaded full clip to YouTube. Blocked by Channel 4. I have a screen shot on previous post.
In the future some memoir ot other will reveal what control Corbyn has as leader of the Labour Party at that time. How was it decided for Lord Darling to share a platform with Osborne to announce a threat budget? Was that the style Corbyn would have chosen? anyway rambling on see previous posts.
If by chance anyone has a VHS tape now would be a good time to test another upload. Maybe Channel 4 have a revised policy on social media presence. Or else send it to FT or Bloomberg. Change is coming.
Monday 26 February 2018
Thank You Adam Boulton but I still think there is a problem
Tweet reply from Adam Boulton lets me know that there was news about Ben Bradley in the print version of Sunday Times yesterday. Page Four top of inside column.
But I count 36 words as well as the headline. I am not surprised I missed it. Also not surprised it was not mentioned in the Marr Show paper review.
Adam Boulton also mentions two pages in News Review but i think this could have been written before the news on Saturday.
Thing is, how to compare the press space based on not very much that turned out to be fact with the actual news of a legal result?
Is there any news about resignation or questions being asked? Apart from talk of online politeness, what about competence? Who is supposed to be promoting the Conservative Party on social media? Has this episode helped?
Anyway if Adam Boulton or anyone is still reading this I would like to ask about how Corbyn was reported during the referendum. My guess is that he still did not influence much of the Labour Party communications or media contacts. The case he made in support of Remain was about worker rights, the environment, things he also mentioned today. Not much reported as I remember. The "Blame Corbyn" phase was well prepared but would anyone go back and look at the facts? It may be that some views have changed, who knows what might be said?
Faisal Islam talk with youth was a good one. Still on YouTube I think. Corbyn a bit rambling but persuasive.
But I count 36 words as well as the headline. I am not surprised I missed it. Also not surprised it was not mentioned in the Marr Show paper review.
Adam Boulton also mentions two pages in News Review but i think this could have been written before the news on Saturday.
Thing is, how to compare the press space based on not very much that turned out to be fact with the actual news of a legal result?
Is there any news about resignation or questions being asked? Apart from talk of online politeness, what about competence? Who is supposed to be promoting the Conservative Party on social media? Has this episode helped?
Anyway if Adam Boulton or anyone is still reading this I would like to ask about how Corbyn was reported during the referendum. My guess is that he still did not influence much of the Labour Party communications or media contacts. The case he made in support of Remain was about worker rights, the environment, things he also mentioned today. Not much reported as I remember. The "Blame Corbyn" phase was well prepared but would anyone go back and look at the facts? It may be that some views have changed, who knows what might be said?
Faisal Islam talk with youth was a good one. Still on YouTube I think. Corbyn a bit rambling but persuasive.
Sunday 25 February 2018
TV / Radio could investigate newspapers on Corbyn and referendum
Needs more space than a tweet.
Ask again, why not report what Corbyn actually said during the referendum about the EU?
See previous posts. It was positive, it was intended for potential Labour voters.
Fact Sarah Smith said only today that a third of Labour supporters voted Leave. this means that two thirds voted Remain. Not a bad result.
But my guess is that the Blame Corbyn move was well prepared. the media bias has been fed from time to time, possibly with good intentions. Current drift of Labour gets more solid though.
So what is the pressure for Corbyn to move on support for Single Market about? .Observer reports it will "infuriate" Corbyn. Is that the aim? Is there any intention to persuade him?
TV seems to be shifting a bit. @Peston has graphics on newspaper bias during election and also shift from newspapers to social media. Sunday Politics has remarks from @Telegraph on social media, slightly less of a shift.
Maybe somebody would talk frankly about what happened during the referendum? How was it decided that Corbyn got on TV or not? Was Lord Mandelson too close to the City and Cameron? Did this influence anything if so or to what extent?
Why did Channel 4 block Corbyn from showing a clip from Last Leg on his own YouTube channel?
Were the heckles reported by BBC plants by from Portland and the Lib Dems ?
Not sure who reads this anyway. Maybe 50 people max, but some sort of record.
Bias against Corbyn is massive and continues. Tory MPs on TV today seem to have no idea that smear is negative for them. Newspapers in their own bubble.
If the Single Market lobby wants to get Corbyn to make their case, why not go back to some actual facts?
Ask again, why not report what Corbyn actually said during the referendum about the EU?
See previous posts. It was positive, it was intended for potential Labour voters.
Fact Sarah Smith said only today that a third of Labour supporters voted Leave. this means that two thirds voted Remain. Not a bad result.
But my guess is that the Blame Corbyn move was well prepared. the media bias has been fed from time to time, possibly with good intentions. Current drift of Labour gets more solid though.
So what is the pressure for Corbyn to move on support for Single Market about? .Observer reports it will "infuriate" Corbyn. Is that the aim? Is there any intention to persuade him?
TV seems to be shifting a bit. @Peston has graphics on newspaper bias during election and also shift from newspapers to social media. Sunday Politics has remarks from @Telegraph on social media, slightly less of a shift.
Maybe somebody would talk frankly about what happened during the referendum? How was it decided that Corbyn got on TV or not? Was Lord Mandelson too close to the City and Cameron? Did this influence anything if so or to what extent?
Why did Channel 4 block Corbyn from showing a clip from Last Leg on his own YouTube channel?
Were the heckles reported by BBC plants by from Portland and the Lib Dems ?
Not sure who reads this anyway. Maybe 50 people max, but some sort of record.
Bias against Corbyn is massive and continues. Tory MPs on TV today seem to have no idea that smear is negative for them. Newspapers in their own bubble.
If the Single Market lobby wants to get Corbyn to make their case, why not go back to some actual facts?
Tuesday 20 February 2018
Students against Brexit could be more persuasive
Back to this blog from Hello Spiders as Guardian gets more obvious. Trend still for more issues to be part of Hello Spiders, but this bog continues.
By now it is obvious there is a bias in this blog that Brexit is a disaster. It will be reversed sometime. How much damage meanwhile? Will there be a right shift in alarm at how much is disappointing? betrayal where?
But meanwhile how to oppose it. The pro Brexit press seems to me to have lost some energy. The Corbyn as spy series is wierd but may get space as May on security is a bit boring and also complex.
Anyway, my main concern is that the pro Remain journalism is not much better, indeed seems to get more introverted in another sort of way. Today Guardian has story on group of students with a youth campaign.
Trouble is the message to older voters seems to be "please drop dead, there is no chance your opinion will change". Do they really want a result or just get applause from people who agree with them?
Some benefit of the doubt for those in less advantaged regions. "If you voted leave it doesn't mean you're a xenophobic racist, it's that you want change."
My suggestion is that if that is a direction to follow it could be useful to look at what Corbyn actually said during the referendum. Arguments pro EU about working time , rights, environment not reported well. Is the aim really to persuade Corbyn and persuade the voters in potential Labour seats? There are enough Lords and city research units to present the economic damage of Brexit. But in itself who can this persuade?
By now it is obvious there is a bias in this blog that Brexit is a disaster. It will be reversed sometime. How much damage meanwhile? Will there be a right shift in alarm at how much is disappointing? betrayal where?
But meanwhile how to oppose it. The pro Brexit press seems to me to have lost some energy. The Corbyn as spy series is wierd but may get space as May on security is a bit boring and also complex.
Anyway, my main concern is that the pro Remain journalism is not much better, indeed seems to get more introverted in another sort of way. Today Guardian has story on group of students with a youth campaign.
Trouble is the message to older voters seems to be "please drop dead, there is no chance your opinion will change". Do they really want a result or just get applause from people who agree with them?
Some benefit of the doubt for those in less advantaged regions. "If you voted leave it doesn't mean you're a xenophobic racist, it's that you want change."
My suggestion is that if that is a direction to follow it could be useful to look at what Corbyn actually said during the referendum. Arguments pro EU about working time , rights, environment not reported well. Is the aim really to persuade Corbyn and persuade the voters in potential Labour seats? There are enough Lords and city research units to present the economic damage of Brexit. But in itself who can this persuade?
Monday 22 January 2018
Guardian should cover tweets more
Print Guardian today page 11 reports on Farage and Banks in possible new project as alternative to UKIP. Not much actually happening, apparently.
But I think there is more going on with social media than appears through print. Westmonster is very active, also Breitbart London. Moggmentum is hard to distinguish. Mogg turns up on Unherd quite often.
Guardian maybe too much on distrust and social media. See blog on ReadG. But they could do some investigation into where Farage is heading and what the themes are.
For example @MayorofLondon not getting much support from Conservatives in standing up to @potus . Check the tweets and retweets for background.
But I think there is more going on with social media than appears through print. Westmonster is very active, also Breitbart London. Moggmentum is hard to distinguish. Mogg turns up on Unherd quite often.
Guardian maybe too much on distrust and social media. See blog on ReadG. But they could do some investigation into where Farage is heading and what the themes are.
For example @MayorofLondon not getting much support from Conservatives in standing up to @potus . Check the tweets and retweets for background.
Friday 12 January 2018
Trump, Brexit, Farage,Umunna, BBC clip
This sound clip compacts several issues that crop up in newspapers. Shows how close Trump and Brexit have become as issues.
Sunday 7 January 2018
Mail On Sunday Spins Trump Trade Deal
This is the most interesting Brexit story so far this year. The Mail on Sunday has reported an interview with Michael Wolff, author of a Trump book, in which he reportedly claims that Trump will only agree to a UK/USA trade deal if he is invited to the Royal Wedding. Whether or not this is true it is interesting the Mail on Sunday has reported it. They usually make a case against Brexit, in balance for the views the rest of the week. This story raises a doubt about how easy a USA trade deal would be.
The speculation that an invitation is unlikely seems reasonable. Also there is still confusion as to whether Trump plans to come to UK just to open the new embassy. Maybe he changes his mind often, as suggested by the claims in the book.
People reading this outside the UK should check the print source of some of the stories on the website. My guess is that the pro Brexit approach is also kinder to Trump but not sure.
The speculation that an invitation is unlikely seems reasonable. Also there is still confusion as to whether Trump plans to come to UK just to open the new embassy. Maybe he changes his mind often, as suggested by the claims in the book.
People reading this outside the UK should check the print source of some of the stories on the website. My guess is that the pro Brexit approach is also kinder to Trump but not sure.
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