Saturday, 9 December 2017

@bbcr4today follows newspapers, hard Brexit continues online #blameTheresatheAppeaser

I am trying to stop buying newspapers so much but am also trying to understand BBC reporting. Radio 4 news today starts with fact that Michael Gove has suggested voters can change policy in the next election. Hard to understand why this is news. Then Nick Robinson sets up an interview with a reference to a range of views from Mail to Telegraph. Turns out in his questions that Gove may have meant to say vote for a different Conservative leader. So I have now bought a Telegraph, all much understated than @bbcr4today suggests. Charles Moore apologises for "sounding negative about poor Mrs May's efforts". No mention of betrayal or anything like it.

So a couple of questions that may turn up.

Why is the BBC still following an agenda set by newspapers? ( Nick Robinson not the only proper journalist puzzled as to why social media continues with alternative views )

If there is an election can there be a change of direction towards a single market, even back to whatever the EU would offer? How soon can this happen?

Meanwhile if the transition period turns out to be a bit of a muddle I do not think the Brexit newspapers now have the circulation or energy to work up the crashing out option. This still continues online with Westmonster, Breitbart London, Moggmentum, Leave.EU . Still not known what happened in the referendum with Russian bots, but somehow everything continues anyway. Scale and timing to clarify later.

Thursday, 7 December 2017

Tabloids back off Remoaners, is there tweet danger for May? #blameTheresatheAppeaser

This is a very speculative post, may be out of time and scale, but could connect with something soonish. I am gradually closing down for holidays, need to clear newspapers from living space in case of guests.

I think the tabloids, well mostly Telegraph, have backed off turning the Remoaners into demons. There are now more of them but even though they made a public statement there is almost no negative reporting and not much of a story. One explanation is that the newspapers think the readers will not go along with it as the Brexit enthusiasm is not on same level as during referendum. Also tweets and social media have begun to take over. Westmonster gets funding as Express may be for sale.

But maybe the gap has moved on, not against a fringe of MPs but against Theresa May prepared to get a deal with EU. Not sure what support for a crash exit there is in business but it seems some newspapers are ok about it. The tweet world - Breitbart London, Westmonster, Leave.EU, MoggMentum - has started to raise the possibility of getting rid of May. I have started to retweet some of these with the tag - #blameTheresatheAppeaser.

Some of this is now in the newspapers. Today Telegraph page one "support from Eurosceptic Tory MPs...ebbing away" , ..."leadership candidates including Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and David Davisare said to be in a state of readiness in case of a coup, though none is prepared to wield the knife" Quentin Letts in Daily Mail reports on Prime Ministers' questions - May "greeted with cheers from Government sycophants" but "regarded with suspicion by Conservative Brexiteers." Tom Newton Dunn in Sun (p2) "David Davis allies have launched a bid to make him PM"...... Sun sources - "Theresa will be gone by Christmas". Iain Martin comment subheadline in Times (p33) time to acknowledge May unsuited to leadership and must be replaced urgently - on Brexit Canada plus arrangements for City and Ireland. New Prime Minister Gove Rudd or -unlikely- #Boris. Too much peril for a general election. key figures to meet and agree.

Fleet Street for Brexit might get behind this sort of thing but more likely as tweets for now ( whether or not picked up by Russian bots ) .

Not sure how this is working out but my guess is Fleet Street as print will be shown as losing influence as in previous occasions.

By the way, Bannon and Breitbart not always concerned with interests of existing party organisation.

RT may still be best source for #Corbyn and PMQs

I am still confused about the idea of Russian bots influencing Brexit voting. Given what is being reported about the USA it seems quite possible. The UK gov is upset about something but they do not inform us what it is. So maybe later the first part of this blog will need to be rewritten to include new info.

Meanwhile I still think RT has done a good job on reporting Corbyn and PM questions in parliament. The newspaper story since Corbyn was elected leader of the opposition has been that he fails most of the time. On YouTube you can see actual recordings in his own voice. Duringbthe referendum and second leadership election I found RT did the most complete clips, avoiding the edits some others came up with to show an anti Corbyn case. I may be wrong about this but look forward to some proper study.




Steve Richards has suggested ways in which Corbyn and Labour could develop policy on single market. If there is support for this one thing to do would be to reconsider reporting on what Corbyn said during the referendum. The move to blame him ahead of the coup was so definitive that the record is way adrift as my own memory serves. During the general election Laura Kuenssberg for example managed an interview that concentrated too much on immigration and failed to notice what Corbyn was trying to say about economy. Maybe just my take, but it was quite easy for Conservatives to edit into an attack ad.

Maybe RT is just promoting any view that helps instability, but I find the Corbyn coverage useful. The FT needs a change in Brexit policy but Corbyn will need to be persuaded through policy that includes the concerns he has stated.

Monday, 4 December 2017

Tweets set the news agenda

posted by mistake in another blog

http://hellospiders.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/#4384990610887213163

Fleet Street circulation and share prices, a looping story

This week news that Fox is back in talks with Disney. LA Times suggests background of scale required to compete online. Still waiting on talks but so far I cannot find any info on what happens to the print aspects. Will they form a viable unit? ( Roy Greenslade in Guardian mentions the Sun has three different versions of editorial in print for UK, Northern Ireland and the Republic. Could not work so easily if Sun part of a global website. )

Last week worries about Daily Mail group circulation and other issues caused a significant drop in share price. Roughly 700 to 550, still there today.

Jeff Jarvis has written about stories as a loop, something else happens so the first story can be rewritten, just a bit different. Also there can be new comment.

Meanwhile still no news on Trinity Mirror and Express. Problems may be around pensions. Scenario could be that Desmond gets cash and pension funds get the print business. Possible future story on how the valuations got past trustees.

Still expected that Guardian will be tabloid printed by Trinity Mirror. This could be viable if enough new contracts compensate for circulation declines in Trinity Mirror itself.

This post also relates to blog on IPEX. There will be spare machinery, where will it go?

Not off topic for this blog. Fleet Street seems to me to be declining as influence. The Telegraph story on "mutineers" was not much supported by other tabloids. Things are moving online. There is energy for Moggmentum, Westmonster, Breitbart London, Unherd. More on this later.

Also more loops on UK newspapers.


Sunday, 3 December 2017

Jokes may be real news, even with a fake Trump

I enjoyed the fake Trump on the Peston show today.



Meanwhile the Telegraph has reported that Trump has cancelled the working visit to London. That was on Friday. Today Sunday Times reports ( page 6 on paper ) visit is on for Feb 26-27.

Both newspapers have editorial supportive of Trump. Both exclusive reports. No announcement widely shared.

My guess is that the wedding started something on Trump and invites. Not off topic for this blog as on Twitter it seems that the same accounts supporting Brexit also support Trump. I am not claiming they are shared bots or run by Russia. But check Moggmentum, Breitbart London, compare with newspapers. There are patterns. The Sunday Times mentions that Farage may be a "person of interest" for FBI. How did all this work? More research later. Meanwhile I hope the Fake Trump turns up on YouTube during the Preston break.

Wednesday, 8 November 2017

Dateline London , some connection

This is just a blog, great to get some contact with the proper media. I shout at the radio, I add my own comment to a tweet. And every so often there is some response.



Previously I have had a civil conversation with Flush the Blog Please @BlogFlush , a Brexit supporter, so it is possible through Twitter to consider opposing views.

Alex Deane is not the only Brexit supporter to appear. Janet Daly appears and Michael Gove briefly when concentrating on journalism. So Alex Deane is not an isolated voice.

To explain a bit more than I can get in a tweet, recently there seems to be agreement that Russia and bots have had influence in the USA and in continental Europe. Also , partly by implication, in UK and Brexit. Nobody disputing this much as memory serves from last week.

So will someone turn up soon with a different point of view?

By the way I still don't understand what the Russian motivation would be, unless just to encourage a bit of chaos.